it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.

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      Buffet has a long history of stockpiling cash when the market becomes far too speculative. He’s also flat out said millionaires and billionaires aren’t taxed fairly compared to the working class.

      I think Trump is trying to appeal to blue collar workers who have seen their jobs disappear. Tariffs are his ham fisted way of trying to appeal to them.

      Trump is a fool though. It isn’t the 60s anymore and manufacturing won’t work in the US without inputs from Canada and Mexico.

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    Trump only ran to stay out of prison. Now he’s ripping the copper out of the walls to get as much money as he can before it all collapses under his ineptitude.

    Elon thinks he’s gonna be a trillionaire at the top of a technofeudal oligarchy. (He wants to be Arasaka from Cyberpunk but he’s gonna have a hard time doing that while all his businesses fail.)

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    The point?

    I see it like this.

    Profit profit profit at the expensive of all Americans for 4 years.

    The next 4 years let Democrats clean up the mess, Democrats are weak anyway.

    Then milk the American people again for another 4 years. The cycle is nonstop.

    This is malicious greed but everyone keeps thinking these people are idiots.

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            The southern strategy yeah. But post Reagan, the Republican Party had been trying to be more inclusive. Bush made it a point to have more diversity in his cabinet. Hell after the 2012 election, FOX News was even saying “Maybe America Dosent Care About Immigration, we need to pivot”.

            We made so much social progress during the Obama years man. Then trump came in and brought out the worst in our country.

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                I know there are a lot of bots on reddit nowadays, but I blame the bandwagoning bs more. It has just gotten worse and worse over the past 10 years.

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                  Ten years ago, everyone was exposed to some amount of News (capitalized), could recognize News when they saw it (even as fringe case conspiracy theorists), and had a reasonable connection to reality. I’m just not seeing it anymore. There is no truth but my echo chamber

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              At the very least they were sane and acted in the interests of the country as they saw it. You could discuss, argue, sometimes work together, and we all went on bumbling our way forward.

              There was so much hope around Obama, so much possibility, it felt like a turning point toward the future. And yes, Biden continued in them at direction.

              I don’t know if it’s all backlash, or the death of traditional News, or “the algorithm”, but the reactionaries, regressives, narrow minded people with no trace of empathy not just found a voice but found an idol to worship. Who brought them to power. And being exploited just makes them cling to their worship

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                Bill Clinton’s success was the beginning of the end of bipartisanship in Federal politics. He made the economy as strong as it had been since the 50s and was the last president to leave office with less national debt. He wouldn’t have been able to do so without Republicans voting for his policies.

                GOP strategist saw this, and pretty much since have went out of their way to block any potential progress from a Democratic president to keep them closer to unpopularity.

                Obama was the first Dem to be a victim of this. But that guy could negotiate his ass off and was able to bounce back from the 08 recession rather quickly and ended his term with a positive economy.

                Biden was too damn old to fight back or compromise, and didn’t have nearly as many votes as Obama to ignore the GOP with his reconciliation bill.

                If more people online actually knew about civics and the inner working of political strategies, they’d realize just how much progress the GOP has blocked within the last 30 years.

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                  Lots of people on Lemmy seem to realize …. Too bad that’s not the real world

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      Probably not here, probably none at all. They blindly follow Trump. And proud to be blinded too I might add: Before I left reddit I wanted to ask a similar question in the republican subreddit. However, they where so loud and proud they found liberals on the subreddit and banned them for life I never bothered to put out any questions there.

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    Stock market manipulation. Look at who moved in to make big trades after the market plunged. Follow the money.

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    Project 2025. The goal is to remove all tariffs and other limitations against the US.

    Canada for instance has laws on antibiotics for dairy, foreign ownership for banks and telcos, various things like that. India has tariffs on everything.

    The document outlines crazy things like capital punishment and a border wall, its clearly Trumps handbook. It’s all in there.

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    “What’s the point?” The point is to seize power and get rich.

    They will destroy whatever they want or need in order to become rich and powerful.

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    I haven’t seen any republicans here so I’ll also offer my opinion as a sane person ….

    1. Narcissism. There is only me, and other. There are no allies, just suckers. it’s all about me. Right here. Right now.
    2. Bullying. Trump styles himself as a great negotiator but from the outside it looks a lot more like bullying. And if you believe his commitments, you’re a sucker. He thinks this is “making deals” but is the only way he knows how to operate
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      I would say maybe it’s something else in that a large portion of their base globally does not see leftist aligned government powers as allies

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        We’re talking about”left” here, all lowercase, not “LEFT”. Basic human rights and safety nets, all people created equal kind of stuff, less exploitation, that are still capitalist and democratic.

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          Vague terms though that makes it easy to think you’re right and they’re wrong. The divide though is that both right and left have different understanding of what is being exploited and what are basic human Rights

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    fascism must always create more outsiders, must always create more enemies to keep control, to keep things directed.

    remember, fascism appropriates genuine upset and the fact that to the privileged, equality feels like persecution. it steers itself by creating enemies to hate. remember: people’s lives are genuinely fucking miserable. there is dystopian shit happening. and all of that is really complicated, and if people stopped to think about it for five minutes, they would pull a 1789.

    so they just keep adding more enemies, and more derangements like what the qanons call ‘baking’ but hitler just said was the way everyone should read books, until they live in a totally unhinged fantasy world, and any method of social control must engage with the fantasy.

    tl;dr: sacrificing external allies to fuel a persecution complex, keep control, entrench the madness, keep attention off the american elites that were at least rhetorically some of the initial targets.

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            Hitler was left leaning. What side was trying to censor opponents and throw political opponents in jail? It was the left and it backfired.

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              Hitler was not left leaning. He was supported by the old guard and the industrialists like Krupp until he out grew them and then turned on them. At the end of the day he was an autocrat, a totalitarian. Think was Gaddafi liberal? How about Suddam? They both had extensive social programs, but they were not left leaning. In the Weimar Republic it was the right wing courts that tried to censor and throw people in jail, and often let the right wing activists off the hook for similar offenses. Left and right wing groups can both censor and throw people in jail, ie USSR, but generally this is in service of totalitarianism, the ideology at that point is just a husk to keep people in line while people vye for control.

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                He’s not worth more than 3 words from me. Thank you for standing up for truth. I know it’s a loosing battle on the internet.

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                Who does that remind you of sir? Kind of reminds me of the today’s left with throwing political opponents in jail and letting the supporters of the left off the hook.

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                Well according to Hitler that his party was neither left nor right wing. He claimed it as a “syncretric movement”. It was essentially his own little sick movement.

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                  Consolidation of power to a tiny coalition of privileged cronies with conditional impunity as long as they backed the leader. That’s not “conservative” or “liberal” or “right” or “left.” It’s just…autocratic. Have you read The Dictator’s Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith? It’s a very illuminating reference and eschews the entire argument of “left vs right” in favor of a ruling-coalition size relative to the ruled population model and it appears to be quite accurate in predicting and explaining the behavior of politicians and rulers, Hitler included.

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              Exactly one political party in US history ran a candidate from a prison cell, do you know who it was and what the party was called?

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          Hitler put all the leftists in camps and also purged the left wing of his own party, he came to power by being appointed by center-right big business interests specifically as a way to crush the left and destroy labor unions, and those interests did quite well under his rule, the term “privatization” was literally first coined to describe the Nazi economy.

          So those are the points showing the Nazis were right wing. The points showing the Nazis were left wing are… they censored speech (which the right also does, all the time) and they have socialist in their name (curious on whether you consider the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea a democracy).

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    Not a Republican. I assume Trump is making backroom personal deals to get the world’s politicians and businesses to bribe him in some way. Aligns with how he seems to operate with everything else.

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    You won’t get logical answers to this because there isn’t one. Maybe they’re just that dumb. Maybe they just want to tank the economy a bit so the rich and gobble up more during the dip. Maybe they just actually love Russia. Maybe they’re being secretly black mailed by Russia.

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      I do think it’s a Russia thing. Putin getting America to alienate all of its closest allies, so that it’s only Russia left to aid.

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      I think y’all are overthinking it, giving them too much credit for having a plan. For Trump it’s just narcissism and bullying. Everyone else is a grifter seeing their chance. Musk must have just read Ayn Rand