• FrChazzz@lemm.ee
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    So, do we refer to them as “re-fired beings”?

    I’ll see myself out

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    Unpopular opinion: The USA reached this state due to a lack of affordable, quality education.

    I’m open to contradiction.

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      Fuck no it didnt! America got some of the best education in the country!! You need to get out more and wake up sheeple. Look I’d argue you more against you but idk if you’re looking to have your soft little opinion challenged. I’m sorry I just get so angry when people insult the US of A. Look I’m sorry to hear about your contract addiction. My cousin is an addict too, mostly meth, it’s a disease I get that. God bless you on your fight against it.

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        No. It’s the capitalist class. Organized religion is just one of the tools used to oppress the working people.

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      As a product of that education system, you are right on the money. Our major downfall was when we started tying school funding with standardized testing with the class of 1994. My class of 1993 got to take the same tests as a pilot, but were the last generation to receive education that wasn’t largely geared towards those tests (which don’t focus at all on critical thinking).

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        Also: ~10 years later No Child Left Behind would roll out while I was in early grade school and violently damage schooling in that exact manner again nationwide

        NCLB was so bad that a bipartisan Congress in 2015 managed to kill it. My dad worked at a school and I can tell you: literally nobody in the entire district had a nice thing to say about NCLB, multiple told child me that it was going to fuck my generation and those after in schooling

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          I completely forgot about that mess since we didn’t have kids. Yeah, seems like the more we try to fix school in America, the more we fuck it up

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        I didn’t know that, and it makes a lot of sense. If true, your input on this aggravates the scenario even more. Thank you for sharing!

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          If you think that’s bad, and you aren’t familiar with how fucked up we are, let me tell you how school is funded in my state (and it varies by state). You would think that taxes from corporations would pay a lot, and they can, in places that have corporations.

          However, in rural areas, like most of my state in Ohio it is funded by whatever tax money you can generate in your little county (to go with the money from the feds/state that can be impacted because of that testing). So, since ours have little business, it is largely from people’s property taxes. Well, you would think that is fine, and it could be if people cared about things like education here. But, old people tend to see it as another expense and constantly vote down new levies when more money is needed (you have to ask for a vote when budgets need increased). So, the education system is largely skewed in favor of wealthier areas, areas with business, and of course the people that can afford private school.

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            No, I thought basic education was covered by federal taxes. You’re telling me it’s funded at the county level?? WTF?! Why?

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              You’re telling me it’s funded at the county level?? WTF?! Why?

              Because in a segregated society, that’s how you ensure that poor minorities have shitty schools.

              (I am neither joking nor exaggerating, BTW.)

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              It’s a mix. A lot of our buildings and that require a lot of local funds, plus operations, etc… We all get the same base per student from the feds, but vast disparities on filling in the rest based on where you live.

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                Okay, so does that mean each state can make changes to the curriculum? That doesn’t sound that bad to me… you’re essentially like a continent, and amendments to the curriculum could bring some benefits. But I guess the base standards still apply. The one thing I’d caution against, though, is the downgrading of problem-solving skills.

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                  they can make changes to their curriculum, but if they can’t pass the standardized tests, they risk losing funding (or having the feds come in to run the school). so, most teach largely to the lowest common denominator.

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                  You really don’t seem to know much of anything about the diverse topic of education in the US to have such strongly held opinions about it.

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      Dernt knew nuff tu refuse yer argament, butt u sed edumacation su im uffended!!!