Why is it so fucking hard for American Idiots to understand that the Jewish people =/= Israel and its government.
It’s not. That type of thinking just works with the narrative, whether it’s conflating “Israel” and “Jews,” or “Men” and “rapists,” or “Blacks” and criminals, or Muslims and terrorists. The point is to make it impossible to argue with anything said
because the pro-israeli lobby has spent millions, billions even, on trying to corrupt the discourse so that any criticism of israel is inherently linked to antisemitism, and tens of millions of people, if not more, have bought into that social engineering and believe deeply that criticizing israel is literally worse than anything hitler did.
Marketing conflates the two, not much we can do.
It’s not marketing. It’s a targeted campaign to intertwine the two… oh wait yeah it’s marketing 🤣
Israel’s 1948 Declaration of Independence states the nation was founded on the “national and historic right of the Jewish people”
Israel’s 2018 Basic Law constitutionally enshrined the state as the “nation-state of the Jewish people,” granting exclusive national self-determination to Jews, prioritizing Jewish settlement as a “national value”, designating Hebrew as the sole official language (with Arabic demoted to “special status”), affirming Jerusalem as the capital, and guaranteeing Jewish immigration rights.
This may be why people conflate the two. Israel has defined itself as Jewish state.
As Mo Amer says, it’s a marketing issue.
I mean how is it much different than “I hate Trump and Elon” but I don’t hate Americans … (well I am an American but still).
I still hate far-right maga and ZioNAZIs
Didn’t they legally make them the same thing? Or try to? It’s bullshit. We probably don’t have many agents in here yet but they’ll get here eventually.
Lefty here. Fuck Israel. Judaism is cool though. Praise YHWH. Looking forward to Passover with my friends this year. Fuck the modern state of Israel.
It’s literally not
You’re failing spectacularly.
“I am bought and paid for by the Israeli government”
Literally admitting loyalty to a foreign government.
and that he’s disregarding his constituents concerns while admittedly attempting to social-engineer acceptance for it.
He’s also completely failing at this task. His job is to keep neoliberals (e.g. the average corporate brainwashed Democrat) pro-Israel.
But first, a word from my sponsor today, the IDF.
It’d probably be easier if there wasn’t a radical right wing government there.
All I see is $en $chumer
His job is to represent the people of NY in the Senate.
Which he’s been doing piss poor at, of course.
While there are certainly shitty, bigoted reasons to be anti-Israel, there are a fuckton more undeniably good reasons to be anti-Israel.
The Christian nationalist fascists love Israel not just because of their warmongering, genocide, and apartheid, but also because they think its existence keeps Jewish people off in their own country away from everyone else.
It sounds contradictory, but the vast majority of support for Israel is literally rooted in antisemitism.
Also the whole end times death cult thing about the Jewish State being a sign of the impending apocolypse and rapture and all the GOOD people don’t actually DIE because God takes them up in the mothershipand for seven years all the heathens duke it out andm ake shit worse before Christ comes back and throug hthe power of The Word MURDERS PEOPLE.
Source. Am Christian. If you can’t point at the bullshit in your own house… I mean. Stones. Glass house. Right?:)
The distinction is hating the government specifically. It’s unlikely a bigot would hate the government, but not the people.
The distinction is hating the fascist ideology (zionism) specifically.
There are anti-zionists within the regime trying to make improvements.
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2024/11/anti-zionist-israeli-mp-i-will-never-surrender
Although it seems extremely unlikely, the government could be reformed or replaced. But (like any form of fascism) the genocidal, supremacist, colonial ideology of zionism is irredeemable.
Right? I have no problem with Judaism, Israel is what I have a problem with.
No I also hate all zionist israelis. Nazi germany would’ve ended overnight had just a large plurality of workers stopped supporting the military. But it was the 1940s, there was no way they could know the horrors of the holocaust.
Israel would end within a week of a national strike by israeli citizens, and they can’t even claim ignorance like nazi civilians could have. The truth is a majority of israelis support zionism and support the regime despite having all information available.
Hating the people is okay too. As long as you’re hating them for the content of their character, not their nationality or other immutable characteristic.
Most germans knew about the deportations, the torture and murder.
It wasnt just the jews that disappeared, but also your grocer, who was active in the KPD or your former village mayor, who belonged to the SPD or your friend, who made a joke on the tram and got executed.
My grandparents and great-grandparents knew. Just like zionist israelis.
Hating the government implies also hating the people who support the government.
Its not just the government, though, the ideology itself is inherently evil. Anyone that’s a zionist is objectively a bad person.
The government and those who support them.
It’s so cute when liberals think that they’re leftists.
all liberals aren’t leftists, but all leftists…
or are you saying that a consevative agenda is leftist?
Liberalism is a right-wing ideology, full stop.
When I responded I had read liberal as progressive and responded accordingly, I’m not certain what happened in my brain but my response makes no sense reading it now. Sorry about that.
Then you have failed. Quit trying to make it happen, we aren’t going to support a genocidal regime.
Like I’ve said before, I’ve never been more disgusted with Zionists and Israel. The fact that his goofy ass is sucking off Netanyahu in the background just makes me pissed off like nothing else. I’ve literally only been using bluesky to ask him to Resign
Why?
Becau$e.
Disclaimer in case it’s necessary:Not meant to invoke an antisemitic trope, meant to point out a reality of American politics in general and Schumer in particular. Him being Jewish has nothing to do with his greed, but him being a corrupt politician does.
You are not antisemitic just because you are anti genocide.
My point exactly.
Some ACTUAL antisemites believe or pretend to believe all sorts of tropes about “inherently greedy jews”, though, so felt the need to distance myself from that kind of nonsense just in case someone got the wrong idea 🤷
Also nation states are not a people the Jewish people are not to blame just because they are Jewish. Only the actions of the few people in their government and the people that support them. Them being Jewish has nothing to do with it.
Imagine a French politician saying my job is to keep my constituency pro-Japan (or any other country).
I live in Japan and plan to retire here and I’d still say ‘wtf are you doing?!’
