We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.

  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Yeah. Definitely don’t need to take an responsibility for your actions. You can be both wrong and lied to. It’s not like there wasn’t 4 years of this already and a very large group of people telling you what was going to happen if you repeated your past mistakes.

    But no. Keep on blaming others for your fuck ups. No one is perfect. No one can blame you for this mess.

    Fuck you.

    Sorry, maybe that was too uncivil. Let me rephrase.

    Conservatives are the neighborhood kid that keeps showing up to the park when the rest of us kids are playing soccer. We let the conservative play because we are trying to be inclusive, but this is the third time you’ve kicked the ball over the fence, and every time we go get it, you swear you’ll play right, but then do it again. We don’t want you on the playground any more. You aren’t welcome to play. We don’t care if you felt like you were lied to. You’ve been told how to behave, and you have chosen not to, time and time again. The rest of us aren’t looking to take your hand in friendship and welcome you back. You’ve run out of second chances. Now, we just want you to sit at home and try not to mess anything else up. No one wants to be your friend.

    • Godort@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      You ever wonder how the right seems to move in lockstep while the left constantly debates between themselves about the details?

      It’s shit like this that fosters that attitude. If some people on the right can look at something like this and then really examine their positions then thats a win.

      The goal with something like this isn’t to get someone to 180 on their beliefs, they know that the government is untrustworthy. It’s to have them really look at what they’re supporting, and if they truly want those changes, after learning what it might cost them.

      • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        I don’t want 180s. I don’t want wishy-washy. I don’t want fair weather friends. Why? Because they are untrustworthy. Oh, you flipped 180 and support trans rights now? How long until the next grifter comes along and scares you into thinking the drag community is stealing children? Oh, you’re good with minorities having rights? Are you gonna feel that way the next time some old white man comes along and tells you they are bringing drugs into the country?

        I’m sure you’d love to say that you’ll stand by your convictions, but history has shown that you won’t. Repeatedly you have changed your positions. Repeatedly you have flip-flopped. I don’t care about you, anymore. Truly. Believe whatever you want to believe, just please do it quietly.

        • Godort@lemm.ee
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          13 days ago

          People are complicated and can carry multiple, nuanced beliefs. There are people out there that support LGBTQ+ rights, think that drag is fun, and believe that people of color get treated unfairly systemically without also wanting to take up arms in a violent revolution against the established systems in America because social progress is still happening, albeit slowly.

          Every social media platform(Yes, even the independent ones) tends to remove all nuance and push every issue as binary, and sometimes worse than that, it will bundle issues together. There are people here that will argue in all seriousness that if you voted for the candidate that would’ve pushed forward progressive policies, that you also support the genocide in Gaza.