• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I has no sympathy towards the genocidal ideology of zionism.

    But I’m definitely sympathic to people who are born in palestine and resist the ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc. That’s brave regardless of their “religion” or lack thereof.

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        but let’s not pretend the Palestinians wouldn’t be doing the same given the upper hand.

        They lived in peace for hundreds of years before the zionist settler-colonial project. So there’s no evidence that the victims of Zionism can be equated with their oppressors, just because “all religion bad”.

        Muslim countries historically have been far kinder to their religious minorities than any european one also.

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          Where are the Jewish communities that existed for millennia in these countries? Ask the coptics how they feel, ask the Kurds. I’m not trying to defend Israel by any means, but it’s disingenuous af to claim the region was some bastion of tolerance and understanding.

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            The fact islam has existed for over the thousand years in these regions yet you find large percentage of these minorities existing to this day is a testament that they didn’t go on a crusade to wipe them out unlike europe. In fact it was the ottomans that took in and rescued jews when europe was persecuting them.

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            Jewish communities have existed across West, Central and South Asia, and North Africa, throughout the middle ages, and until the mid-20th century. They are known as the Mizrahi Jews, and were largely tolerated by Muslim rulers. In fact, Jews in Morocco and al-Andalus (modern-day Spain) worked as civil and military officers for the Moors, and Muslim rule was seen as a Golden Age of Jewish science and art.

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            For Palestine specifically, Khalidi’s The hundred years war on Palestine goes over the period of transition from the ottoman empire, to zionist colonization. It goes in-depth into peaceful relations between religious communities for hundreds of years before zionism.

            As for the middle ages through the ottoman empire, you can glance over these wiki sections, but its fairly universally accepted that Islamic states were in general refuges and safe-havens for jewish peoples who had to flee christian persecution, or those who already lived in the regions.

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        18 hours ago

        It’s not like the Palestinians welcomed them into their homes in the 1930s and 40s, surely not! Religion bad! Go back to reddit you fucking rat