US community on Midwest.social is also Russian modded. I got to admit, it’s not entirely stupid of Russia to try and go to as many non-official official servers they can. Like Ireland on Discord, US News/Politics on Lemmy and through modding those communities, control the way the rhetoric leans.
It’s just annoying how many people won’t recognise that and instead but into all of it. That’s genuinely why Trump won, more than likely. The amount of “don’t vote” froM Russian trolls was huge
The sad thing is that a good amount of these guys aren’t actually working for the state. A lot of them are actually immigrants who left Russia for more opportunities, but are still rampant nationalist attempting to damage the countries that gave them a new home.
Oh yeah definitely most aren’t hired state actors. Just perpetuating the bullshit.
I don’t know how many people in the line there are but basically Russia wants something to lean in a certain direction, so they spread all fucking sorts on purpose with a small amount of people. But as I’ve said, it’s incredibly easy to get non-official official things online. Like claim an artist, a country, a community of anything that’s already popular, on any platform, and then pretend to #1 be that kind of person, but constantly feed in the opinions you want to bend.
A dozen, two dozen people like that actually doing it as a job will make a huge fucking wave if utilised properly. And I’ve no idea of the numbers Russians have plus all the botnets and simps and then at the bottom of the line, the American MAGAt aping shit they read on those platforms, thinking they’re “just saying what everyone is thinking” while actually aping Russian propaganda.
Hate to say it but goddamn America needs a little bit more fear towards Russia. The whole world has pretty much written off Russia since Ukraine actually stood up to them and Russia didn’t just blitzkrieg through.
But everyone has forgotten what they’re really good at. It’s not the bullying border neighbours, that’s just their hobby. Their profession is spycraft and disinfo.
I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he’s native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn’t even know what a limerick is.
It’s beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.
And yeah, it’s pretty easy to tell disinfo most of the time if you prod a little.
I got banned from some .ml community because I had the audacity to suggest that maybe Russia isn’t the best place in the world for individual privacy, but I think the mod was from another instance altogether. I honestly can’t remember the details, but it was pretty clear a few steps into the discussion that they were at least a Russian apologist if not full-on spreading disinfo intentionally, so I baited them to push the mod button. And they did. I could have disengaged, but I don’t want to be part of a community where even mild criticism of a nation isn’t allowed.
If you see russians everywhere you are probably underestimating american disinfo and cyber warfare. USA has the most powerful and technological advanced army in the world and they spend 10 times more in war than russia. For every russian agent you see expect there to be at last 1 american.
I confirm he’s a warcriminal. trump, putin, zelenskyy, macron and pretty much all rulers are corrupted pigs with blood on their hands, don’t you agree?
See, this is exactly what you do. You pretend to admit to it, but only in a comment where you say “oh yeah, Putin is a warcriminal IF everyone else is as well”. That’s not admitting to his criminality, that’s you trying to be “smart.”
It’s genuinely like arguing a twelve-year old school boy. Worse, honestly. I talked to some tweeners today on the bus and they made better arguments than you do when they defended vaping on the bus. FFS.
The people who are too scared of saying “Putin is breaking international law with the illegal invasion of Ukraine and is a war criminal and should be tried for his crimes”, or even “Putin is a criminal” or “Putin is wrong” or “Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine”, the people who never utter a single detail about themselves (except when claiming to be “born&bred American”) but constantly comment on American politics, and each of their comments aligns with Russian propaganda?
Yeah, it’s not “everyone”, sweetums. <3
If you guys drank less and read more as a people you wouldn’t be ridiculed so bad. Now it’s like genuinely ridiculous how unaware you are of how fucking see-through you are.
It’s ludicrous. I would laugh if it the Americans also weren’t so stupid that you actually managed to put an agent at their head of state. Because that is actually worrying.
Russia itself is weak and backwards as fuck but if they manage to mangle the US, Russia+China will give Europe a running for our money.
I point out your shitty rhetoric. You equivocate. I ask if you wouldn’t mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal, you get scared of being thrown out of a window and don’t reply, then I point out how you’re a little scaredycat, afraid of saying “Putin is a smalldicked dictator”, then you pretend “I already said it” (when you never did.)
Just like always. You can’t admit to Russia illegally invading Ukraine, Putin being personally responsible for several crimes against humanity unlike Zelensky, because you can’t take a side in this, because your arse clenches up at the slightest thought of rebelling against what you ultimately know to be wrong.
I’ve been talking about it for quote a long time.
Lemmy for one is infested with Russian pretending to be American.
Davel and a hundred others davel@lemmy.ml
humanspiral@lemmy.ca
Yogthos@lemmy.ml
Are another two just off the top of my head.
Yep, definitely agree with those.
US community on Midwest.social is also Russian modded. I got to admit, it’s not entirely stupid of Russia to try and go to as many non-official official servers they can. Like Ireland on Discord, US News/Politics on Lemmy and through modding those communities, control the way the rhetoric leans.
It’s just annoying how many people won’t recognise that and instead but into all of it. That’s genuinely why Trump won, more than likely. The amount of “don’t vote” froM Russian trolls was huge
The sad thing is that a good amount of these guys aren’t actually working for the state. A lot of them are actually immigrants who left Russia for more opportunities, but are still rampant nationalist attempting to damage the countries that gave them a new home.
Oh yeah definitely most aren’t hired state actors. Just perpetuating the bullshit.
I don’t know how many people in the line there are but basically Russia wants something to lean in a certain direction, so they spread all fucking sorts on purpose with a small amount of people. But as I’ve said, it’s incredibly easy to get non-official official things online. Like claim an artist, a country, a community of anything that’s already popular, on any platform, and then pretend to #1 be that kind of person, but constantly feed in the opinions you want to bend.
A dozen, two dozen people like that actually doing it as a job will make a huge fucking wave if utilised properly. And I’ve no idea of the numbers Russians have plus all the botnets and simps and then at the bottom of the line, the American MAGAt aping shit they read on those platforms, thinking they’re “just saying what everyone is thinking” while actually aping Russian propaganda.
Hate to say it but goddamn America needs a little bit more fear towards Russia. The whole world has pretty much written off Russia since Ukraine actually stood up to them and Russia didn’t just blitzkrieg through.
But everyone has forgotten what they’re really good at. It’s not the bullying border neighbours, that’s just their hobby. Their profession is spycraft and disinfo.
That’s a large part of why I avoid Lemmy.ml. That’s not all of them though.
It’s not all of them, but it’s enough to influence idiots.
Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.
You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.
People exactly like Davel.
I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he’s native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn’t even know what a limerick is.
It’s beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.
I meant it’s not limited to lemmy.ml.
And yeah, it’s pretty easy to tell disinfo most of the time if you prod a little.
I got banned from some .ml community because I had the audacity to suggest that maybe Russia isn’t the best place in the world for individual privacy, but I think the mod was from another instance altogether. I honestly can’t remember the details, but it was pretty clear a few steps into the discussion that they were at least a Russian apologist if not full-on spreading disinfo intentionally, so I baited them to push the mod button. And they did. I could have disengaged, but I don’t want to be part of a community where even mild criticism of a nation isn’t allowed.
If you see russians everywhere you are probably underestimating american disinfo and cyber warfare. USA has the most powerful and technological advanced army in the world and they spend 10 times more in war than russia. For every russian agent you see expect there to be at last 1 american.
Yes hello.
I was waiting for one of you to turn up.
Don’t think I be forgotten your nickname.
Nice strawmanning, but “on every platform” =/= “everywhere.”
Thanks for the case in point, comrade!
Believe what you want i’m simply pointing out the obvious, if you only see russia propaganda around and none from the west ask yourself a question.
Ask a question… like; would you mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal and a sad bald bastard?
I confirm he’s a warcriminal. trump, putin, zelenskyy, macron and pretty much all rulers are corrupted pigs with blood on their hands, don’t you agree?
See, this is exactly what you do. You pretend to admit to it, but only in a comment where you say “oh yeah, Putin is a warcriminal IF everyone else is as well”. That’s not admitting to his criminality, that’s you trying to be “smart.”
It’s genuinely like arguing a twelve-year old school boy. Worse, honestly. I talked to some tweeners today on the bus and they made better arguments than you do when they defended vaping on the bus. FFS.
Why that one though? Just because it’s more ‘official’ as the devs instance?
Everyone you don’t like is a russian troll, to be honest i’ve yet to meet someone on lemmy that is actually from russia.
The people who are too scared of saying “Putin is breaking international law with the illegal invasion of Ukraine and is a war criminal and should be tried for his crimes”, or even “Putin is a criminal” or “Putin is wrong” or “Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine”, the people who never utter a single detail about themselves (except when claiming to be “born&bred American”) but constantly comment on American politics, and each of their comments aligns with Russian propaganda?
Yeah, it’s not “everyone”, sweetums. <3
If you guys drank less and read more as a people you wouldn’t be ridiculed so bad. Now it’s like genuinely ridiculous how unaware you are of how fucking see-through you are.
It’s ludicrous. I would laugh if it the Americans also weren’t so stupid that you actually managed to put an agent at their head of state. Because that is actually worrying.
Russia itself is weak and backwards as fuck but if they manage to mangle the US, Russia+China will give Europe a running for our money.
Don’t worry, toveri, mä oon rajal sua vastas.
You are accusing me of being a russian troll for a simple reply to your comment
Dude wee had this chat like a dozen times.
Here’s how it’ll go.
I point out your shitty rhetoric. You equivocate. I ask if you wouldn’t mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal, you get scared of being thrown out of a window and don’t reply, then I point out how you’re a little scaredycat, afraid of saying “Putin is a smalldicked dictator”, then you pretend “I already said it” (when you never did.)
Then I point that out and you run away as usual
Dasus stay focus and don’t pick up useless fights. The oldest trick in the book is to put people against each others so they ignore actual problems.
Just like always. You can’t admit to Russia illegally invading Ukraine, Putin being personally responsible for several crimes against humanity unlike Zelensky, because you can’t take a side in this, because your arse clenches up at the slightest thought of rebelling against what you ultimately know to be wrong.
Coward.