• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Now did you mean for all those words to come out of your mouth in that order, or are you just as surprised and confused as the rest of us?

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      8 days ago

      Oh I must have been confused. I forgot that history doesn’t exist. Everything started with whatever was last on TV. Donald Trump is just randomly the president for no reason. There must not be any reason he has the power to do the things he’s doing. Nope. It’s a mystery. Carry on.

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        8 days ago

        Oh I must have been confused.

        It shows.

        I forgot that history doesn’t exist.

        It’s apparent.

        Donald Trump is just randomly the president for no reason.

        Being a Russian asset (sock puppet or fanboy… you can pick) … helps considerably.

        There must not be any reason he has the power to do the things he’s doing. Nope. It’s a mystery. Carry on.

        Legally speaking he doesn’t have the power to do a great deal of what he and his fascist buyers friends are doing.

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          8 days ago

          Legally the president doesn’t have the power to unilaterally go to war, but that hasn’t stopped them from doing it for the last 70+ years.

          Basically ever modern president has grabbed more power for the executive branch without being properly checked by congress or the courts. Combine that with an ever expanding military and surveillance apparatus and it turns out you can do some pretty bad stuff, regardless of the legality.

          As for the rest of it, idk man. Clearly you have your rosy view of history where the US was a super great place before the scary Russians came in to corrupt democracy. All I can say is you have more reading to do.

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            8 days ago

            Let’s not mince words here and throw about whataboutisms. We can deal with your hand waving in a second:

            Clearly you have your rosy view of history…

            I know my history and have no illusions of what this country has done in the past- eugenics, experimentation on its own citizens, interfering with other countries… it’s a list. Surely. But because I know my history I can safely say that it is unprecedented what is being done today.

            Only either the truly ignorant or malicious could look at what is occurring and attribute it to standard politics. Let’s be real: we’ve been observing the systematic isolation of the United States from its allies, the undermining of its protections, and attempts to dismantle or weaken it’s defenses… And that’s before we start to look at some of the other heinous shit that is going on.

            The scary russians

            Let’s not pretend like Russia hasn’t time and again been the aggressor and frequently is willing to cross lines (and borders) to enact it’s will. You might argue the US has some similarities in that… and you’d be right- however; it is a feature of our system that has allowed us to retain some semblance of humanity and good will - despite the rot. I think I speak for most Americans when I say we’d rather not tread further into the realm of dictators and fascists.

            Your rhetoric is in line with what is frequently parroted by the willfully ignorant in echo chambers… So which is it: are you seeding the disinformation or a product of it?