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  • The threat of tariffs is a cheap alternative to actual tariffs in terms of scaring businesses. So don’t believe him, or at least trust our government to hit back hard.

    Note that he doesn’t have the authority to do what he says. His whole tariff scheme right now is framed as national security, but this escalation shit is not going to be forever covered under that excuse. It’s the US Congress that has the authority over tariffs and at some point (maybe after the next midterms) this point will be made in the us system.

    That is, unless they completely break their democracy first. Goddamn yanks man.







  • Drawing a line on a map and saying Jews go this side and Muslims go this side

    Which isn’t want happened with the said countries

    To be a bit more constructive than what I wrote in my previous comment: ethnicity was very often defined using religion in the Balkans:

    • After the Greek war of independence, Christian former Ottoman subjects renamed themselves as “Greek”. At the Treaty of Lausanne, this went further and Christians in Anatolia were declared Greek and forced to move to Greece, whereas Mulsims in Greece were declared Turks and forced to move to Greece.
    • During the “Struggle for Macedonia”, adherence to the Constantinople Patriarchate made someone Greek, adherence to the Sofia Exarchate made someone Bulgarian.
    • Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats share the same language. At the origin, the difference was pretty much religious and maps neatly to Muslim, Orthodox, and Catholic.

    The only Balkan people that seem to have somehow miraculously overcome the religious fragmentation of ethnic identity are the Albanians.


  • not really. with those countries it was through warfare during the collapse of a larger national/nation like entitiy. Israel was a mixture of a gift from the british and a betrayal of palestinians to palestinians, backed by rich people buying land from landlords who didn’t give a shit. Then through the six day war, israel did their own warfare (supported by much more potent powers than the palestinian side), and grabbed everything they wanted, but gave it up during the ceasefire , ceding back to… Unfortunately for these poeple groups, they did not recieve the same support israel did during their territory bid/larger national/nation like entitiy’s collapse.

    So? Each nationalism is different in its details. And it’s very obvious that Israel is also an offshoot of the Ottoman collapse, in the same way that Cyprus is, i.e, indirectly via the British. These details are irrelevant to my main point, which is that Jews (more specifically, those Jews who identify as “ethnically Jews”, for others it’s just their religion) also have national rights (no more, no less) than other ethnic groups.

    And zionists have not done anything other extremist nationalists haven’t done in the region. Genocide? Ask the Armenians to tell you about the Turks and the Azeris. Colonization? Ask the Greeks what we did in Macedonia. Occupation? Ask the Turks what they did in Cyprus. Ethnic cleansing? Ask the Serbs, and the Croats before. Irridentism? Oh boy, welcome to Balkan. Deny the existence of another oppressed ethnic group? Ask the Macedonians about the Bulgarians and the Greeks. Apartheid? Well, OK, conceded. I guess this one is unique to them, nobody else managed to do this. But not for lack of trying, instead probably due to technological limitations: The Greeks tried it out a bit in Thrace for some decades and the Greek Cypriots tried to do it for a decade or so before the Turkish invasion, but the Israelis have taken it to another level. But this is all details.

    My main argument stands: ethnic Jews have exactly the same(*) rights to national self determination as every other ethnic group in this part of the world. No more and no less. There is nothing cosmically special about Jews or their nationalism.

    Which isn’t want happened with the said countries

    I actually know my own family history, thank you very much.

    (*) I.e., no more and no less.

    To be clear: we are on the timeline where ethnic jews are claiming much much much more than what is their right. Zionism is out of hand, and that’s an understatement. The Israelis are acting out a genocidal mania that echoes the Armenian genocide at this point. This is not an argument to excuse Israel in anything. This is an argument against putting jewish nationalism, i.e., zionism, in some special evil place. In fact, I would argue the exact opposite: other balkan and near east nationalisms that now enjoy an aura of european respectability, like my Greek compatriots, need to be critically examined precisely through the lens of zionism: we are not that different in our shittiness than they are. If a Greek or a Turk declares themself an anti-zionist while clinging to Greek/Turkish national myths of taking back Constantinople or winning back the Ottoman Empire, well that says something about us too.


  • It’s literally how we got countries like Greece, Turkey, Armenia, Serbia, Croatia, etc. Christians on this side, Muslims on that one. Orthodox on this side, Catholics on that one. Even Belgium basically become a country when the Catholics decided to secede from the Dutch Protestants. Racist (for some definition of “racism” that includes religion), sure. Special to Zionism? No.

    If the Serbians of 1990 (or the Greeks of 1920, etc etc) had a superpower behind them bankrolling their every war, supporting them diplomatically, protecting them at every turn the way the US does for Israel, the situation would like pretty much the same. Again, if you contextualize it in the Balkans/Near East, Zionism is really nothing special.



  • OK so hear me out: ever heard of a little thing called the Two State Solution? Well, one of those two states would be …Israel, right? So anyone championing the Two State Solution, kind of by definition is a Zionist.

    Zionism has come to mean more than “the Jewish people have a right to a national state in the Holy Land”. It has come to mean apartheid, occupation, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, genocide even, and other such “wonderful” words. But, you know, there is also an original meaning of the word under all that garbage. Since Jews have lived in the Holy Land since forever, they have as much a right to national self-determination as do other people in the ME like, for example, the Druze, the Assyrians, the Palestinians, the Kurds, etc. Not more, of course, so they do not have a right to Jewish Supremacy, but also no less. There is nothing special about Jews compared to other ethnic groups. Not more rights, but also not fewer rights. Same as everyone else.

    PS. Free Palestine. End the Apartheid and Occupation. Israeli war criminals at the Hague.





  • You’re right to point out my inconsistency when it comes to the two. Apologies.

    So let me retract that and go back to this line: whoever Zenz is, the UN special rapporteur deemed him a credible enough source to include his work in a UN HRC report. The report has not been retracted. I’m not an expert on the sources, but I can in good faith assume that the UN HRC is a reasonable arbiter of reputability. This is the same standard as I use for other conflicts and controversial world events. I therefore accord this UN special rapporteur the same benefit of the doubt as his colleague, Francesca Albanese.

    And just like I mistrust attacks on Albanese’s reputability when it comes to Palestine, I mistrust attacks on Obokata when it comes to Xinjiang.

    And I’m going to leave it at that.




  • Mintpressnews are pro-Assad. I mean the same Assad who butchered Syrians, Lebanese and Palestinians and who operated CIA dark sites after 9/11. That guy. What’s mind boggling is that you call that …anti-imperialism. That’s not anti-imperialism, it’s crude campism.

    I have nothing to say about Zenz’s politics, that’s why I don’t. His politics are irrelevant with respect to the truth of what he alleges.

    But to centre Zenz in this discourse is disingenuous. There are about 84,000 entries in the Xinjiang Victims Database. Those are the people to centre.