If I was this guy I would have moved my family like they were in witness protection. The chance of them being collateral damage is just too high.

Though he referred to walking his daughter like walking a dog. So he probably doesn’t care much.

I agree we don’t owe them anything. And if being uncivil will make a difference, I am all for it. But if it won’t help, then let’s stay civil. In this specific case, if the floor of the house becomes a circus, people will start voting for clowns intentionally. Because it will become a required skill. I would rather it not. We already have too many clowns in there as is. And someday I hope it can go back a bit toward what it is supposed to be. A place for compromise. Though I do admit that I don’t have a lot of hope.

Well a big part of it all is that the interruption doesn’t really make a difference. It’s a show, likely done to get attention on himself. If it were to be something very effective, that would be another story. But it will start us down a path where the chamber will resemble a WWE production. The original point though was that if the constituency of the dems that voted yes, support that vote, then they did thier job in representing thier voters. So that’s okay. If every vote follows strict party lines our government will be even more of a pendulum than it currently is. Swinging wildly to which ever side currently has the power.

The democrats and thier party have been bought and paid for. They aren’t going to save us from the billionaires.

I know it feels like it. But you could be in North Korea. That’s pretty close to rock bottom with very little hope of ever improving.

I think an awful lot of people around the world would argue we are nowhere near the bottom.

I’ve read otherwise on the costs of services per person and density. A fire station can only reasonably cover a certain amount of space. So low density housing means you need more fire stations for the same amount of people. And of course you need more road per person in general.

If only publicly traded companies were required to disclose information that would prove this. Oh yeah, they are, and it does. But thier shareholder very much approve of it, so essentially the companies are doing what the shareholders want, which is their job. Maybe it’s the system. And maybe it is time for a change.

There is a case to be made for not joining the race to the bottom. But likely these people constituents would be in favor of them voting this way. And in the end, that is who they are supposed to represent.

Great time to start working on a replacement… if you have several million hanging around.

I would have remembered the entire democratic party walking out even more. The speech is just a pep rally for the incumbent party. Why are they expected to sit through it. Before efficient mass communication, it made some sense. And the content mattered more. But now? No one expects me to sit through the prp rally of my opponent before the big game. And make no mistake, politics is just a game to them.

While I do think there should be some relief for some people as far as property taxes are concerned… living in a town or city gives a person access to many local government subsided services. Firefighters, and ambulances are some simple ones that everyone uses. Roads as well. And the cost of that does increase over time. Basing a person’s contributions to paying for that based on the value of thier property is just easier for local governments, and more stable. But it doesn’t really corelate with the use of those services. Nor with income or ability to pay.
Life necessities really shouldn’t be taxed at most levels. Food, shelter, water, heat, medical care. Most already aren’t. But housing still is. Investment properties should be taxed of course, but an average primary residence really shouldn’t be.

I like to say it has become fashionable not to hide it. Lol.

Hope he distances himself all the way to mars. He should try a ride in the next starship launch.

Yes. Schools and libraries.