Sir! Fresh off the presses, water is wet!

Can my line show up in the press now too?

Bravery or suicidal?

She told the cops ahead of time what the plan was. Did she expect it to go some other way?

She could’ve moved up to mass, i’m positive if she posted online someone would have taken her in to help her get a leg up in a part of the nation that isn’t full of bigoted ignorant dumpy lovers, but she didn’t.

I can’t see Florida, land of the insane, to rule anything on her side. That leaves appellate court or the supreme court… and I don’t see those going her way either.

Yeah, i’m not that deep into gender politics. I was just talking about somebody I don’t know, have never spoken to, have never met, and i’ve been relying on OP’s news article as my source of truth for all information about her.

She made the choice to be where she is. Here’s hoping she has an actual plan and she’s not just victim #1 like everyone replying to me is implying.

If she was just using the restroom without sending out a press release ahead of time so that cops would be there this would almost certainly not have happened. I just don’t know what this is supposed to accomplish in florida, land of the batshit insane people, especially with everything else bombarding us in the news. I get and agree with the desire to change things back to sanity, but I also know that my opinion is worth about as much as anyone on here.

You know, it doesn’t hurt to ask me instead of insinuating shit.

This.

Sorry, have two in laws living with me who have been applying for jobs for 14 months without success. If they can’t get jobs here in boston, i’m guessing florida is even worse.

Has nothing to do with her in particular, just the state of how fucked this nation is. Just like what I said originally.

Sorry, have two in laws living with me who have been applying for jobs for 14 months without success. If they can’t get jobs here in boston, i’m guessing florida is even worse.

Has nothing to do with her in particular, just the state of how fucked this nation is. Just like what I said originally.

They were a nobody before, now they will be a champion of liberalism.

They probably went from nearly unemployable like the rest of us, to guaranteed a good job at a nonprofit or other company that is proudly pro trans rights. There’s no shortage out there.

They just have to survive the judicial system and the penal system, with all the free legal representation coming their way they have a shot at avoiding any jail time, and who knows how the appeals will go after florida can’t secure a settlement or guilty plea.

linux primary with dual boot for a windows install just because of the games that won’t work.

The thing is if you’re going into the situation to date them you’re doing it wrong.

I’m literally saying go in and treat them like human beings, just like you’d treat anybody. The point is not to go in with the mentality of sleeping with them. The point is to go in making friends. Romance comes naturally just by interacting with single people in social settings.

This is the disconnect. I’m saying do not go in to sleep with them, and you are thinking it as the objective behind all of it. Sure, maybe, if it happens great, but that’s not the point. I went to meetups like that when I was single because they were fun and got me out from thinking about the problems of life, exes and work. It got me into all kinds of events I never would have gone to if I were not in those circles.

I can’t imagine going out with the objective of finding someone to date. That’s creepy and manipulative, just like you’re saying. This is why people lecture you, because you’re not trying to make friends - you’re just looking to fuck.

Games and manipulation? what the fuck are you talking about?

It’s about hanging out with people in a non dating scenario, getting to know them, then seeing if they are interested after you both know each other a bit. You don’t go in cold. You don’t try to “pick up” women this way, this is a way to meet all kinds of people in a neutral setting with no strings attached for anyone. It’s like a safe fucking space and if someone you find attractive gives you the eyes or invites you out on the side it can work. I know. I almost married a girl who invited me to her place for food 1:1 after a few board game meetups. I wasn’t going there for the fucking women, I went for friends and fun.

By being in a group social scenario everyone is expecting to socialize and meet new people. You’re sharing an interest, which means you’re likely to be friends anyway and at least compatible on a social level - and the non-sexual components of relationships are basically the only fucking ones that matter long term. Shared values and shared interests are what make relationships work. Sexual attraction doesn’t keep a marriage going when your 2 year old is up screaming at 2am because your 2 month old infant woke up for a feeding.

But anyway, keep spouting your weirdo white knight shit about how just talking to women like human beings is bad. The problem is you. It’s not normal to think about harassing women when you’re going in to simply meet and get to know people.

“Everything is everyone else’s fault! Why can’t everyone see that my way is better for me and my interests?!?!?!”

Sorry donnie, we do see it.

If you’re approaching strangers and asking them for a date and you aren’t an adonis, wealthy or otherwise instantly recognizable in a positive way, you’re gonna get some real negative responses. No one wants some rando just asking them out, but this is not new, this is why if you go to a bar you have a wing man - being solo looks creepy.

It’s true though that I wouldn’t have dated women who are 28 or younger (seems to be the oldest of gen Z.) I’m 40. Even though i’m of another generation it’s basically been a 10% chance or less to approach someone and ask them out… but again if you don’t try it never happens. Most people are in a relationship ALL the time… the best relationships i’ve found have been by making friends first in real world circumstances (board game meetups, parties, work functions/events, hiking meetups, running meetups… you name it…) and then being friendly and literally making friends with people. If you click with someone you can literally feel it, and if you like them enough then after you’re already at least friendly acquaintances you ask them to something.

If you can’t ever make friends at a meetup or event, especially one that invites strangers and often has newcomers, the problem is you.

Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.

I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

They do not understand and the understanding they have has been formed with propaganda for decades.

American politics has been so far from it’s idealistic roots in democracy and supplanted by the wealthy for decades if not a century or longer. Allowing businesses to fund campaigns openly in the 70s has to have been a big tipping point and why we have allowed it is bizarre to me. We have basically no media today that isn’t highly politicized one way or another. Bezos has altered his media to fit whatever party furthers it’s business goals… like most oligarch owned businesses following suit whether or not they are media.

I don’t think things can be changed anymore though. I think pandora’s box opened at some point and it can’t be shut again without tearing civilization down.

If every individual you approach gives you a lecture you might want to check out not being around those people. Try something different.

I’ve never, ever gotten a lecture. I’ve been married for about four years, but before the pandemic I picked up 4 women in a year that led to relationships of months before I ended them when I realized there wasn’t enough there to keep me interested. Don’t get me wrong, i’ve been dumped plenty and rejected plenty. I just learned to move on from the rejection.

It’s like job hunting, it’s a numbers game and every time you try you have a chance. Every time you don’t try nothing changes.

I just can’t imagine being lectured just by approaching someone and saying hi, asking them a question that is pertinent to the scenario, and giving them a chance to speak.

I just disagree that they had it so good.

Modern technology like cell phones, computers, medicines and treatments have upended how things work. Imagine how hard it would be to go to a college or university and not have access to google or reddit. Or how hard it would be to have to type up multiple copies of everything instead of just sending an email with multiple recipients.

MMR vaccines starting with measles in 63, mumps in 67 and rubella in 69, Polio in 55-61ish, Haemophilus influenzae type b '85. Anyone who is a boomer lived in a period where these things were still a problem in day to day lives.

Their car crashes resulted in fatalities. Ours are generally minor injuries in comparison. The way cars are designed have changed.

They had one or two power outlets per room, if any at all. They didn’t have much insulation, let alone sound proofing.

They had to pay a commission to a travel agent to go on vacation, they couldn’t just look things up for themselves and had to rely on friends or the agent as to how it is.

If you wanted to look something up you had to go to a library.

Few actually owned multiple cars. Growing up in a middle class household in the 80s we had a single car and our family vacation was camping.

There was a constant threat of nuclear war.

Air travel for a long, long time was exclusively reserved for the wealthy and those in business.

Labor laws, as few as we have today, were even worse.

By the time computers came around they were too old to actually partake by and large. My boomer grandparents (because that’s the actual boomer age now in their 80s) are dying or are dead and they’ve never had a cell phone.

Easy to access jobs, homes, boats, cars with little to no education or financial acumen. Just that “walk in and hand them a resume” trope they love to perpetuate.

It’s never been that easy! It’s always been easy to find a job that pays for a room, but much more is a luxury for so many. There’s obviously exceptions but I see loads of people making >200k today without advanced degrees. Anybody who got into programming ~4+ years ago is living like a king today by comparison to most of the ‘middle class’ in the 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s.

They paid in cash per TFA

So walk away from them, or handle it gracefully somehow. It’s the same as trying to make a friend. Doesn’t everyone make friends from time to time?

Interest + effort = relationship of any kind. Find the shared interest, make a little bit of effort… or don’t and the math doesn’t work. If romance doesn’t come, you’ve made a friend.

You’ve drank too much ideological koolaid. People aren’t what you read in the news or a great deal of the internet.

It’s actually really easy to get a date in person if you are not a total ogre and treat women like normal people.

Weirdo white knights can easily end up as incels. Neither of those groups tend to do very well in actual social situations.