• woahseph@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    Jfc this is how your country got here in the first place. Absolutely relentless bothsidesing. What will it take for you to give up on the idea that they’re “basically the same”? Insurrection didn’t do it, fascism isn’t doing it. What will it take??? Morons

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      Lol. They think this is edgy. Democrats are human beings, they fuck up. Right now? Absolutely torch them for sitting idly by and not connecting to people in large meaningful ways. But like… Really? Democrats have been the ones fighting to give you universal medicine, lower taxes, cleaner air, higher skilled jobs and higher paying jobs, more housing, and even fucki g protecting the border while not infringung on human rights lol.

      Pussy ass bitch

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        You dumbasses are going to bothsides your way into something very, very serious over there. Assuming you haven’t already

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    4 days ago

    Given the reality of the world we live in, Dems are the best we have right now.

    Obama pulled this country out of the worst economy it’s been in since the 30’s. Brought healthcare to countless Americans (my wife would no longer be with us due to the cancer she had - Medicaid allowed her to be treated). He legalized gay marriage. Allowed gay and lesbian people to openly serve in the military. Gave the order that killed Osama bin Laden. We’ve all seen firsthand cities and towns be fixed up from the stimulus bills he passed in 2009. I could go on and on.

    Hard for someone like Biden to follow that up being the next Democrat in line.

    Meanwhile Trump has done everything to gut the work that Obama did, and make life worse for Americans in general. The last few weeks have felt like years in some sense with all the garbage he’s pulled. He’s bringing back another set of corporate tax cuts that are gonna fuck over a bunch of middle and lower class families.

    They aren’t comparable.

    At least we have a fighting chance for change under Democrats. They just need to give the old goons the boot.

    Say all you want about us providing aid in conflicts worldwide, but that’s what we’ve always done. We all have it great here in terms of safety because of those decisions. I can count on one hand how many times we’ve had foreign powers attack us on our soil since the revolutionary war. Hamas is a proxy of Iran/Russia, so of course we’re gonna back Israel. Same reason we’re backing Ukraine over Russia.

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    Oh my fucking god, the comments in here are so bad. Nobody is saying “both sides bad”. This is not a centrist meme. This is a case of observing that Republicans are far-right fascists and Democrats are center-right conservatives.

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    6 days ago

    This meme made sense in 2012, not when the Republican Party has decided to be the Anti-Democratic Party.

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      Not three months ago Gaza had a death toll well past fifty thousand by the most conservative estimates, not to mention the huge amounts of women and children maimed, malnourished and the wholesale destruction of the entire strip’s infrastructure.

      Did the republicans do that or did y’all deny reality so much in the pursuit of tHe mOsT iMpOrTanT ElEctiOn oF oUr LiFeTimE that you don’t know what fucking color the sky is unless you ask the DNC first.

      The republicans are not diametrically opposed to the democrats, they’re just the same shit but more brash, and (with Trump at the helm) too fucking incompetent to not say the quiet part out loud, maybe because they know their base is so rabid on American fascism that dogwhistles aren’t enough anymore, they need a fucking trumpet.

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        What I’m saying is that the Republic Party is trying to dismantle democracy. You don’t have to be a fan of the politics of the Democratic Party to want to at least retain the shrivel of a democracy the US had before.

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          Democracy already died, and it died under a Democrat. We’ve been a true plutocracy since Citizen’s United v FEC. What actually would happen is the Democrats would defend the plutocracy until the Republicans inevitably win an election because they take advantage of people’s hatred of our situation.

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          Who destroyed the Gaza Strip to begin with?

          There would be no “Trump plan to rebuild Gaza” is Gaza wasn’t destroyed under Biden.

          Why are you so “on board” with the destruction and genocide of Palestinians as long as it’s a Democrat doing it?

      • jimmy90@lemmy.world
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        so you prefer trump and putin in power?

        did the republicans do it? of course they did. the US has been funding israel for a long time.

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          See? Perfect example.

          Without the republicans, Dems would have no one to hide behind when their many genocides are recounted.

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              Are you at all able to communicate with others without resorting to deflection and loaded questions?

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                simple enough questions but as you’re so busy campaigning against the dems you must be quite happy with trump?

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                  I’m about as happy as I would have been with a dem, which is to say I hope they die and take the US with them and leave the rest of us alone finally.

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    The Ratchet effect.

    With this current trump slop, the democrats can shift farther right than they’ve ever been and gain tons of moderates and even conservatives who just feel sour on trump, and obviously they get the liberal moderates, because trump slop.

    Republicans shift right by 10, dems shift right by 6 and seem progressive in comparison.

    Billionaires continue getting richer, and we all get fucked. Eat, sleep, repeat.

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    Yeah this is totally warranted given the recent news. I mean, one side trying to expand medicare, the other gutting it. One side trying to close Guantanamo bay, the other opening concentration camps on it. One side trying to get money out of politics, the other side destroying democracy for want of more money.

    Totally helpful, totally warranted, OP. Well done. Way to go. You’re so cool and centrist.

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    If the vast majority of Americans believed the Democrats to be less evil, the Democrats would have 90% of the vote. If that were the case, the Republicans would move ever further left, perhaps even overtaking the Democrats, until they get a chance at winning again.

    The reason the parties are right wing is because the voters are right wing.

    That’s why we need a communist revolution where everyone will be a happy little comrade

    The reason that people don’t vote Democrats is the same reason that people won’t join your revolution.

    If you found enough people to support a revolution, that’d mean you have enough people to change the system by simple voting.

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      That’s not actually how electoral politics works. The two major parties are right wing because that’s what the bourgeoisie allows the US to pick from, not because those policies are genuinely popular. Bernie, for example, had policies more supported by both republican and democrat voters than either other candidate. Policies like Medicare for All are overwhelmingly popular.

      Revolution isn’t won at the ballot box because the electoral system is designed from the outset to only allow pre-approved candidates and parties. Revolution comes from organizing, hence why in areas with stronger union presence government policy is usually more pro-worker, they must capitulate.

      Revolution, ie the overthrow of the state, has happened many times before throughout the world and will happen many times more as long as it remains the only actual vector for change.

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        If left wing policies were truly more popular, why didn’t the Democrats win? The voters didn’t get Bernie, so if you can’t get your ideal option, you instead take the worse of the two remaining ones? Even if voters were only voting for damage reduction, they’d still vote Democrat in that case.

        But the Democrats didn’t win. The voters don’t want damage reduction. The voters want damage.