Let’s start with my mistakes:

  • I haven’t followed LKML.
  • I assumed: Every ThinkPad has - overall - perfect Linux support, so this will as well.
  • I did look up support when purchasing but I was still not verifying on the LKML.
  • Edit: I trusted Qualcomm’s marketing

So, I wanted a ARM-Linux laptop so bad. I heared about the Lenovo ThinkPad X13s in 2023 and I looked at marketing promises and (rare!) takes on it. Then there was the opportunity to buy this laptop fir a good price with the entire stats I would require for my next 10+ years. So I bought it.

In order to bake Linux on it I had to read up upon many things - I run it daily but have to accept some downsizes.

Anyhow, I thought this title would be interessting regarding Lenovo’s and Qualcomm’s “success” on ARM so that others may be aware that I am looking daily for the LKML and my model SC8280XP.

There is ONE SINGLE CONTRIBUTOR (there were two; The other joined Lenovo) allowed to have “elected and requested” documents in order to aid support. Despite their intentions (QUALCOMM) to support Linux. And I furthermore assume it hasn’t have changed with the new Snapdragon X processors.

So, thanks to John Hovold and Linaro for doing an awesome job. I wish I could support you.

  • sleepmode@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Lenovo artificially inflates the [M]SRP and has fake “sales” to make it seem like you’re getting a good deal. Never ever trust that.

    As you discovered there is often one single person working on getting these devices compatible. As an example the OpenBSD team and others will sometimes suggest you donate a system in order for anything to happen. And even then there are no guarantees if blobs are involved.

    This is a pretty big goof up but I’ve made the same mistake when the x200 first came out. I think you’re getting dragged because what people are curious about is what specifically isn’t working. I’m surprised it’s working at all but then again John is a beast.

  • superkret@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    I’ll be honest, this sounds interesting, but I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
    Where does the $2700 price come from?
    Does it support Linux or not?
    Are you happy with it or not?
    What’s LKMS?
    I’m really struggling to even parse the basics from your post.

    • 7dev7random7@suppo.fiOP
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      1 month ago

      I’ll be honest, this sounds interesting, but I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.

      I am just sharing for the community. And I want some nerdish engagement tbqh.

      Where does the $2700 price come from?

      It was the manufacture price when I purchased it.

      Does it support Linux or not?

      It does but there are a few important things lacking. Also it isn’t stable without reading up on LKMS upfront and knowing what to do. Not all distros are capable of booting it yet (e.g. void).

      Are you happy with it or not?

      I poured ~$1200 to Qualcomm/Lenovo and they are employing one worker from one sub company. Interpret it on your own.

      What’s LKMS?

      RTFM. // Edit: I missspelled. LKML. I edited my post. Appreciated.

      I’m really struggling to even parse the basics from your post.

      I am open for sharing my insights, though : )

      • 7dev7random7@suppo.fiOP
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        1 month ago

        Idk why I get downvoted for this.

        I am transparent and sharing my experience. I almost paid $2000 dollar for my dream and contributed as best as I can.

        TIL: Don’t fk post.

        // Edit: But prompt your confusion. You may get insight.

        • InquisitiveApathy@lemm.eeEnglish
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          1 month ago

          I didn’t downvote you, but you kind of glossed over the unreasonably high price point for a middle of the road Thinkpad that looks like it’s worth less than what Lenovo is currently reselling it for. You can literally build a high end gaming rig for less than what you paid for that so I feel like we’re missing a lot of context here.

          • 7dev7random7@suppo.fiOP
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            1 month ago

            I know that’s why I made this post: My hopes were high up and I payed the price. So I shared my experience.

            Appreciate your follow up, Sir or Madame.

            They claimed 28 Hours of no connectivity video playback with a moderate amount of brightness (if I recall correctly about 50%). It may get there half (Windows or Linux) but you will be at 0% left.

            • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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              1 month ago

              Literally every single comment you post has one or more sentences that are unrelated to everything prior to it and don’t indicate who they’re even directed at… It feels like you’re having conversations with ghosts that only you can hear.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Don’t tell people to RTFM when you present a unique hardware/software limitation scenario.

          You said you wanted a chat, so chat about the issue, don’t give the group homework

          • 7dev7random7@suppo.fiOP
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            1 month ago

            Thisnis slightly out of context. I told to (politely though, I thought) RTFM because the acronym should have been known in this channel. Though I have missspelled it and therefore his question was valuable critique.

            • superkret@feddit.org
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              1 month ago

              Even if you hadn’t misspelled it, replying RTFM to people who ask what an acronym means is nonsensical and rude.

              Which manual???

              And while RTFM can be expected to be understood here, LKML without context can most certainly not. I’m a sysadmin by trade, I’ve been using Linux exclusively for 15 years, I’ve patched and compiled my own kernels, and I didn’t know that acronym. Cause I’m no kernel developer.